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#11162 - 04/09/13 12:48 PM Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel
bigbill Offline
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Registered: 06/15/12
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Loc: Ct
I been wanting to fabricate a trailer I can tow with my tractor around my property so I have the 200 amp welder and it's 4,000 watt generator that's accessible where it's needed. I been thinking of mounting my gas welding and torch cutting outfit on the trailer too.

Does any have any trailers built like this already?

Should I go with a solid axle or on springs?

I figure to put a Reese hitch receiver on the trailer frame so the tow bar can be removed when it's stored no one will walk into the tow bar when it's folded up.

Any thoughts or ideas you want to add? Bb
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#11165 - 04/09/13 06:55 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: bigbill]
TAP Offline
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Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 166
Loc: ND
bigbill,

I had a small trailer at one time with the same set-up, welder, generator and torch with a solid axle, it was ok around the yard, but any speed over 20 mph and it would bounce like a basketball, and everything would go flying.

A set of torsion spindles cost about the same as a leaf spring set up and you get a nice smooth none bouncing easy pulling trailer.

Just my opinion

Tim
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#11166 - 04/09/13 07:34 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: TAP]
JimC Offline
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Either way... I would go with some sort of suspension. solid axle will beat every thing to death.
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#11200 - 04/13/13 11:24 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
kcshawman Offline
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Registered: 02/12/10
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Loc: Kansas, Olathe
I have a trailer with an Opel front end...Not going to find anythng like that in the junk yard now. However I have not been looking at the newer vehicles that much. The Opel was all contained with coil springs and shocks just welded some small angle to bolt the tie rod ends to (I did not want to weld the axle as who knows may want to build a dune buggy some day and want to be able to turn the wheels. Great little trailer.
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#11203 - 04/13/13 03:19 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: kcshawman]
mdlawnguy Offline
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Look for a old boat trailer maybe that would work.
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#11388 - 04/29/13 09:07 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: mdlawnguy]
JimC Offline
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I just picked up a Lincoln weldanpower 225. Any one know what those things weigh? I can't find info on it any where. also looking to find a manual for it. trying to decide if this little jet ski trailer I acquired will carry it.
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#11390 - 04/30/13 03:18 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
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Go to the lincoln website. They had info on. Their products and maybe down loadable manuals..
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#11391 - 04/30/13 03:27 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
Lincoln Offline
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I found a forum that some guy claims they weigh around 500lbs.
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#11392 - 04/30/13 04:28 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: Lincoln]
JimC Offline
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finally found the manuals. but nothing on the weight, so that bit of info helps. I couldn't pass it up for $600. it cranks right up and welds like a dream. it'll be much nicer than dragging a generator and a welder around to the jobs I get that require welding away from a viable power source. if it is only 500 lbs then that trailer should work just fine. I'll take some pics today. it was too dark last night.
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#11397 - 04/30/13 10:43 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
JimC Offline
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contacted Lincoln electric. they say the machine is between 800 & 900 ponds. think I may need better springs.
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#11401 - 04/30/13 12:59 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
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If the trailer is for two jet ski's you may be ok. I would check the trailer frame inside for that nasty trailer Rot.. especially if it was used in brackish or salt water. Also look at the axle some of those things used a small U channel that breaks. I see a few going down the highway with the hub and wheel going one way.. and trailer the other..
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#11402 - 04/30/13 06:05 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: mdlawnguy]
JimC Offline
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Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
Here's the trailer and the welder pre mod.


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welder_01.jpg

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#11404 - 04/30/13 06:24 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
JimC Offline
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Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
Posted a bunch of pics up to my flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jim0421/sets/72157633375581867/


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#11407 - 04/30/13 07:12 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
mdlawnguy Offline
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Ok is that a telescoping tounge? If not good job making that.. guessing there was not much rust..
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#11408 - 04/30/13 08:26 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: mdlawnguy]
JimC Offline
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Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
Not telescoping. the tongue was just too long, so rather than just cut it off I Pushed it all the way to the back. figured it would offer some extra support. I welded in extra cross members, replaced the springs (one fell apart as soon as the U-bolts came off) so good thing I decided to upgrade. wasn't going to put a tongue jack on but Northern had them on sale for $19.99. the springs were only $22.95/ea. I forgot to get new u bolts and of course broke two getting it apart, so adapt and over come. I used the top plate for a template and made bottom plates. then just used used nuts and bolts.


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#11409 - 04/30/13 08:34 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
JimC Offline
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Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
Galvanized trailer.... only the bolts that held the parts on were rusty. I still have to go back and paint over where I ground the galvanization off so I could weld.
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#11411 - 04/30/13 08:40 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
JimC Offline
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Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
Bill,
I hope this helps you make a decision. If I was gong to use this alot off road, I would fit it with wider turf tires.
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#11434 - 05/02/13 09:19 AM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
JimC Offline
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Registered: 04/17/11
Posts: 610
Loc: Virginia U.S.A.
I still want to put bigger tires on it but this will work for now.


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#11436 - 05/02/13 05:11 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: JimC]
mdlawnguy Offline
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Loc: maryland *****
Don't forget lights and fenders.. watch the tire size it could make you top heavy.. you might find some junkyard tires and rims
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#11438 - 05/02/13 06:13 PM Re: Cart / Trailer for my gas powered Hobart stick wel [Re: mdlawnguy]
Lincoln Offline
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Registered: 03/25/11
Posts: 651
Loc: Parry Sound Ontario Canada *****
That should be real handy Jim
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