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#14742 - 03/12/15 08:53 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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As the machine set in the shop it was leaking oil/water out of the drive shaft which was odd. I decided I would take it apart to clean the universal bearing if nothing else. One of the needle bearings rollers on the rear axle universal was broke in half, so I decided to go ahead and replace the universal. I refilled the differentials and the transfer case with oil and took it for a spin.

One advantage of the lokrite vs a spool is that it can relieve stress on the axles as you turn. Since I installed the rear the machine pops loud as you turn but it pulls both tires when pushing. Now with the front locked it does the same thing. I didn't drive it long enough to really know how its going to last, but I did drive it for a few minutes.

I think it actually turned easier with the lokrite than without. This sounds counter intuitive but with a differential if the machine is sitting still and I try to pivot from one side to the other, as one wheel turns forward the other has to turn backward the same distance because they are locked by the differential gears. With the locker as you turn it builds up stress between the locked wheels. Since the pin that locks the lokrite teeth isn't pulling, the teeth on the locker will open and it will allow the wheels to rotate indipendently relieving the stress between the axles allowing each to roll wherever it needs to.

I pivoted the machine back and forth several times. I could hear the lokrite disengagine each time I pivoted. It also seemed to rotate more freely than it did before. I also went up to a tree and pushed against it. All four tires spun. I am excited to get it to work and see how much better it pulls.

I did buy an axle shaft for the side that broke on ebay, but I m too impatient and installed the welded one. If it breaks I can swap it out in about 1.5 hours, now that know how to do it. I also want to know how good my weld will hold. When it breaks the other wheel will still pull which is wouldn't before the locker. The only disadvantage is that I have $550 invested in the two lockers.

I have a load of gravel coming monday that I will spread under my new shed.

Bunk,
This might be something to consider on yours, or you can wait and see how mine holds up.


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#14846 - 04/09/15 07:25 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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smile. 1,000,000 views. Thanks guys. Probably 50,000 are my own views.

Btw the rock spread fine and the axle is holding up fine so far. I'll keep you updated. I haven't used it much in the last couple weeks.
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#14847 - 04/10/15 03:22 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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I was going to replace the locked diff in the rear axle with a trac-lok limited slip(posi-type)differential..it keeps breaking the shaft when turning at a standstill.Used go for about $150USD on eb..i have other irons in the fire right now,maybe later this year.



Originally Posted By: Gator

Bunk,
This might be something to consider on yours, or you can wait and see how mine holds up.
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#15492 - 09/26/15 07:20 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: bunkclimber]
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A work out last night adding and moving inventory.





Did many more lifts AL the limit of the machine, including a series1 Bridgeport and a 100 year old horizontal mill.

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#15506 - 09/27/15 09:05 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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Nice!! cool
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#15517 - 09/28/15 05:30 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Lincoln]
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If I put any more equipment in my shop I won't have any room to work on stuff. All I can do is dream now. I am considering upgrading though. While the OLD F.E.REED lathe still works, some thing a little more modern would be nice. Sweet machines.


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#16052 - 12/24/15 03:15 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: JimC]
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#17173 - 07/03/16 09:14 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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I was installing a invisable fence around the yard that involved dragging a ditch a few inches deep around the yard with my swing arm backhoe attachment and root ripper head. While traversing through the woods I came on a 18" diameter oak that had fallen on the path. It was about 30 feet long. I was able to push it around and out of the way. As I drove around some more I was hearing a popping from the front with the wheel speed. I looked and didn't see anything. After a good bit more of dragging the ditch, the front left universal u joint snapped the ears off. By the time I got it out of the woods and back to the shop the drive shaft iside ears were broke off the shaft. At that point I thought it's not getting any worse and finished the ditching in two wheel drive.

I'll post some pics of the carnage and the repair when I tear it down.
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#17178 - 07/04/16 12:52 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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I kinda had a feeling that your GM axles were'nt gonna hold up with the locker in there.I went back to L/S differentials after breaking my loader axle shafts repeatedly.Once back to L/S-not one axle shaft broken to date.You might want to get a spare set of front axle shafts to have in stock,they are getting harder to find as time goes on even with a million of 'em made
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#17260 - 07/27/16 02:22 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: bunkclimber]
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Started tearing it down last night. I will have to cut the ears off the axle with a torch, as it won't come out fo the hole now (bent)



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#17299 - 08/08/16 09:04 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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Got a few parts in. I ordered a set of axle shafts on eBay. They we're pretty dirty, as I pressed the u joint out I bent one of the ears. Very frustrating. I the took the other shaft apart after getting it apart one of the ears had a crack in it. So what to do. I had enough parts to build both shafts with u joints but don't need her ujoint motion.

I decided to build a straight shaft out of some of the broken shafts. That will be nothing lost of it doesn't work and save me $25 for the moog ujoints if it works.

Here are some pics. It was a rough turn for the lathe.



Cut ears off with band saw till I got it this far






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I did both ends. Had a piece of 1.25 x 1.75 dom tubing. Cut to length in lathe and pressed together. Haven't welded it yet.




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#17300 - 08/09/16 04:44 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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preheat with a rosebud SLOWLY before welding to equalize temps in your metal


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Haven't welded it yet.
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#17301 - 08/10/16 05:53 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: bunkclimber]
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Well Bunk I know this is going to make you happy......this is a bit of an inside ongoing commentary, sorry to those who don't know what I'm talking about.

Leaving the locker in the rear



Putting a limited slip up front instead of the locker..

Had to cut the steering linkage to get the ring gear out. It had been previously welded to keep the wheels straight. It will be bolted back together.



Welded up



Welded shaft put in.



I would like to do the other side also, but if this doesn't work cutting and welding the other side would ruin only long shaft I have. I guess I'll put the universal on the long side. Welding it may put additional stress on it as the universal lets it move around freely.

Probabaly will be a couple days before I get it all together. Had to order a gasket also.


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#17302 - 08/10/16 10:39 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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I put limited slip front and back on my jeep. it will dig holes with all 4 wheels.
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#17303 - 08/12/16 02:56 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: tom]
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at least you have the option of easily replacing the whole axle,housing and all by undoing a u-bolt...my axles are welded in
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#17304 - 08/12/16 08:30 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: bunkclimber]
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These are also still standard length. I cut a couple shock brackets off to make them fit but otherwise they are stock size.
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#17305 - 08/12/16 09:06 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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man that was the biggest mistake I made,the Dana 44's just arent stout enuf...I shoulda used heavier 3/4T 14bolt GM PU truck rear axles..it adds to the machine weight as well
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#17316 - 08/17/16 01:07 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: bunkclimber]
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A 14 bolt or a 60 would be easy to find..at least on load bearing end...it's a good repair an will be tougher but prolly be busting the outer shafts next.
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#17317 - 08/17/16 05:02 PM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: nnaatz]
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I got it back together on Saturday, took it out and pushed on a tree. It acted like a limited slip in the front and a locker in the rear, imagine that. I could tell it was loading up the slipping tire though. It did seem to roll a little easier overall.

I drove it back into the shop, and spent last night welding bars in the rear to hold counter weights. It will lift the rear pretty easy on a tree root. It will pick up about 2500 lbs with the bucket. Now I might break it in half vs picking the rear. Time will tell. I'm not adding all that much weight maybe 300 lbs


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#17318 - 08/18/16 03:35 AM Re: Articulating Tractor/FEL - From Scratch [Re: Gator]
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take the bucket off and you can lift more.Ive had some real a#$pucker experiences with my machine,not load capacity wise but shock loading it,bouncing a load(big 1000lb boulder)on the fork chassis broke the mount for the tilt cylinder(my loader uses one 2.75"bore in the center of the mast,not two like yours)-it ripped loose the lower tilt cylinder mount on the fork chassis.Fortunately Im in tune with my machine and heard a loud pop when the load bounced and broke it.Cause was not enough material in the tilt cyl mount to support the load..ground it out and laid down three MIG passes to repair it..seems to be OK now after testing..if you really USE your machine-(you sure do)-you'll find weak spots,always be on the lookout.Inspect it often.FWIW
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