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#17683 - 01/06/17 09:04 PM snow blower on a jeep
fitterski Offline
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Registered: 10/17/11
Posts: 12
Loc: Quebec, Canada

900lb Duramax + 300lb pump on rear frame extension, Nominal 1000lb blower + 300lb motor on front end. Closed system, no reservoir. That's a total of 2500lbs, can the Jeep take it and what would the traction and steering qualities become?

I'm not optimistic, maybe a truck is inevitable although I would prefer the tight turning Jeep!
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#17684 - 01/06/17 11:55 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: fitterski]
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what jeep are you thinking of. I have seen pictures of jeeps with two engines one runs the rear axle, the rear engine runs the front axle. you could run a rear engine to power the blower,and if the blower is two heavy it could ride on casters.
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#17686 - 01/07/17 04:07 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: tom]
fitterski Offline
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Loc: Quebec, Canada

A 4-door with the slightly longer frame would give me more options.

The blower knife needs to hit ice stubs hard so i need a sturdier attachment than many plows, casters would work only on clean asphalt

The duramax isn't committed to yet but could be within days. That engine, like many new diesels is really meant to go with an automatic and doesn't like early upshifts and such loads. I have even been told to not even think of direct connection to a blower.

The more i think of it the more ridiculous it seems. 2500 lbs is like 12 people crammed into the jeep. It's not gonna fly :-)
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#17687 - 01/07/17 05:31 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: fitterski]
mdlawnguy Offline
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Registered: 03/07/10
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Now guys the old willys mb was able to carry 12 guys and gear.. Years ago you were able to get pto as a option which a 3pt blower is able to be attached. Several yoars ago a local welding shop put a 22hp gas engine with gear 6 to 1 gear box to a chain drive 3pt blower and it was attached to a modified myers plow frame it didnt pivot trip or angle.. Baisicly looked like a ladder frame.. And it was 7 ft wide and 2ft tall. And it was 2 stage.. Worked decently but had to take it slow and very heavy on front end.. It also had a 5 gallon marine fuel tank.
Raise n lower was with plow pump n chain.
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#17770 - 03/21/17 07:03 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: mdlawnguy]
bigbill Offline
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Loc: Ct
Closed system no reservoir means your going to run it with hydraulics? Ever see the size of the hyd tank on the highway mowers?

I have a 55 cj5 I built for plowing. I boxed a 73/cj5 frame with 3/8" plate when the orginal 55 cj frame became paper thin. The rear section I triple walled it with 3/8" plate for a hydraulic dump steel rock body. She's about as heavy as I can go now. The 4 way plow is on the front. I installed two loc rites in the front and rear diff's. She runs four sets of tire chains. I welded truss bars on top of both diff's. The little 134f head will push any snow with authority. I think the f head has 75hp.
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#17789 - 03/27/17 03:07 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: bigbill]
mdlawnguy Offline
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how about a picture of the cj5 please..
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#17981 - 09/10/17 07:11 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: mdlawnguy]
fitterski Offline
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Registered: 10/17/11
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Loc: Quebec, Canada

Wow, I missed all this somehow. I'll have to check my email address.

I haven't given up on the jeep idea but the selection of a host vehicle is on hold. I had a slow start with engines and things and winter is already on my heels so I'm going to do one more season with the rig I built 'here' in 2009 :-)))
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#18029 - 10/20/17 05:17 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: fitterski]
Murf Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
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Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
I realize I’m a little late to the party, I haven’t been around for sometime.

Over the years I’ve built several ‘blower trucks’, usually for clearing long private roads.

They have been in 3 formats, the most common is a 24hp Honda horizontal shaft engine mounted directly on a standard farm tractor type blower and running a 5 to 1 reduction chain drive directly to the input shaft on the blower. It mounts directly to a standard Snowplow mount. They work well for all but heavy wet snow since they’re a little under-powered for a wider blower, they work best on a mini truck with a 6’ blower.

The most robust and effective, but also far more spendy, style is a small automotive engine mounted permanently in the box of a pickup, with either a drop chain drive to a driveshaft running the length of the truck to ‘PTO’ drive the blower, or have the engine power a big hyd. pump and power the blower that way.

Of the last two options the choice is; shaft drive has a lot less parasitic losses but give a lot less ground clearance and isn’t as forgiving if you hit something, the hydro drive doesn’t have any effect on ground clearance and will tolerate shock loads better but you lose some power, this is overcome easily enough by ‘biggie sizing’ the engine powering it.

Best of luck.
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#18030 - 10/20/17 05:18 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: fitterski]
Murf Offline
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Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
I realize I’m a little late to the party, I haven’t been around for sometime.

Over the years I’ve built several ‘blower trucks’, usually for clearing long private roads.

They have been in 3 formats, the most common is a 24hp Honda horizontal shaft engine mounted directly on a standard farm tractor type blower and running a 5 to 1 reduction chain drive directly to the input shaft on the blower. It mounts directly to a standard Snowplow mount. They work well for all but heavy wet snow since they’re a little under-powered for a wider blower, they work best on a mini truck with a 6’ blower.

The most robust and effective, but also far more spendy, style is a small automotive engine mounted permanently in the box of a pickup, with either a drop chain drive to a driveshaft running the length of the truck to ‘PTO’ drive the blower, or have the engine power a big hyd. pump and power the blower that way.

Of the last two options the choice is; shaft drive has a lot less parasitic losses but give a lot less ground clearance and isn’t as forgiving if you hit something, the hydro drive doesn’t have any effect on ground clearance and will tolerate shock loads better but you lose some power, this is overcome easily enough by ‘biggie sizing’ the engine powering it.

Best of luck.
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#18031 - 10/20/17 10:30 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: Murf]
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Registered: 02/14/10
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Loc: kodiak alaska *****
maybe an air cooled VW engine on the blower
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#18032 - 10/21/17 04:52 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: tom]
Murf Offline
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Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
The bigger the engine you mount on the blower the heavier it is to pick / carry and the further out from the carrier vehicle it needs to be mounted.

The addition of both weight and length means you have magnified the leverage issues too.

To keep the weight and balance within manageable limits, especially on smaller trucks, you really need an engine in the box to counterbalance the blower on the front.
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#18033 - 10/21/17 04:52 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: tom]
Murf Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
The bigger the engine you mount on the blower the heavier it is to pick / carry and the further out from the carrier vehicle it needs to be mounted.

The addition of both weight and length means you have magnified the leverage issues too.

To keep the weight and balance within manageable limits, especially on smaller trucks, you really need an engine in the box to counterbalance the blower on the front.
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#18034 - 10/25/17 06:24 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: Murf]
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Registered: 02/14/10
Posts: 1689
Loc: kodiak alaska *****
way pick it use casters on rams and just push it.
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#18036 - 10/28/17 11:18 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: tom]
Murf Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
If you can pick it up you can drive down the road between sites, or to go for gas.

50 gallons in 5 gal. Jerry cans gets old fast!

Besides, casters don’t last long when they’re running at near capacity and you hit something, even just a frozen lump of ice can break stuff fast in the cold.
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#18037 - 10/28/17 11:18 AM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: tom]
Murf Offline
New in town
Registered: 05/11/10
Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto area, Ontario
If you can pick it up you can drive down the road between sites, or to go for gas.

50 gallons in 5 gal. Jerry cans gets old fast!

Besides, casters don’t last long when they’re running at near capacity and you hit something, even just a frozen lump of ice can break stuff fast in the cold.
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#18038 - 10/28/17 12:48 PM Re: snow blower on a jeep [Re: Murf]
tom Online   content
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Registered: 02/14/10
Posts: 1689
Loc: kodiak alaska *****
I was thinking of big casters like the ones used on runway brooms I have a set but can not get a picture of them do to were I got them stored.
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