I picked up a 3 year old Miller Thunderbolt Welder cheap, the guy only used 3 times, and it looked it, clean as a whistle. I changed the leads out on it from the 4 guage to 1 guage. I also made the stinger lead a 30 foot compared to the original 15 foot 4 guage lead. I kept the ground lead the same length at 10 feet. From Bearscamp
New is nice, but the scrap pile is more interesting!